Pain guide · Knee pain

Knee pain on the stair climber: the kneecap, step depth and speed, the rails and what helps

Knee pain on the stair climber usually comes from the kneecap meeting a higher level, faster steps, deeper steps or a longer session than your knee is used to. Climbing loads the front of the knee several times more than walking, and a stair machine takes away the walk down but not the climb. Where it hurts is the best clue: around or behind the kneecap is usually kneecap pain (runner's knee), one point just below it the patellar tendon, a stiff inner ache from mid-life arthritis, and catching at the joint line the meniscus. A slower pace, a lower level, shorter steps on a stepper, a slight forward lean with your hands light on the rails, and a bike while it settles usually help, and hip and knee strength work is the treatment.

This guide starts with the signs that need help, from accident and emergency (A&E) for a knee that changed shape or swelled fast after a fall from the machine, and a 999 call for chest pain on the stair climber, to a same-day check through the National Health Service's 111 line (NHS 111) or a general practitioner (GP) for a knee that locks, gives way or can't take your weight, a hot, swollen knee, or a swollen, painful calf. It then maps the causes by where it hurts, explains what the studies of stairs, steps and stair machines show, and don't, shows how to change your sessions today, and gives a three-stage plan with a 3D demo of every move, back to the step mill and your usual workouts.

When to get help first

Exercise is for pain that has been checked or is clearly mild and settling.

Get urgent medical help if

  • Go to A&E if you've injured your knee and it has changed shape, it becomes very swollen very quickly, you felt a pop or snap, you can see bone sticking out, or it's bleeding heavily. Don't drive yourself: ask someone to take you, or call 999 if the pain means you can't move your leg to get there.
  • Get advice from NHS 111 now: you cannot move the knee or put any weight on it, or it is very painful, badly swollen or has changed shape.
  • Get advice from NHS 111 now: the knee locks, gives way or clicks painfully. Painless clicking is normal.
  • Get advice from NHS 111 now: after a twist, your knee won't go fully straight, or something blocks the last part of straightening, even if you can still walk on it. A torn piece of meniscus caught in the joint can do this, and it needs checking promptly.
  • Same day: a pop or tearing feeling at the front of the knee after a fall, stumble, jump, landing or a heavy squat, then you can't straighten the knee or lift the straight leg off the bed, there's a dent above or below the kneecap, or the kneecap sits higher or lower than on the other side. Go to A&E or an urgent treatment centre, or get help from NHS 111. A torn quadriceps or patellar tendon does best when it's repaired soon.
  • You hurt your knee and cannot take 4 steps, or you are 55 or over and have injured it: get it checked the same day for a broken bone.
  • Get advice from NHS 111 now: a hot, red or swollen knee with sudden severe pain, a very high temperature (although not everyone has one), or feeling hot, cold or shivery. This can be a joint infection.
  • Call 999 or go to A&E if your child gets sudden pain in their hip, knee or thigh (hip problems can sometimes be felt in the thigh or knee) or cannot put any weight on their leg. If your child is limping, ask for an urgent GP appointment or get help from NHS 111 the same day. This applies to teenagers too, and in some children knee pain is the only sign.
  • Same day (urgent GP appointment or NHS 111): throbbing pain in one leg (rarely both), usually the calf or thigh; swelling in one leg (rarely both); red, blue or darkened skin; or swollen veins; or sudden worse pain and swelling around a lump at the back of the knee (a possible clot or a burst Baker's cyst).
  • Call 999 or go to A&E if breathing suddenly becomes difficult, if pain in your chest or upper back comes on suddenly with breathlessness or a very fast heartbeat, or if someone passes out. Do not drive yourself. It can be a blood clot that has reached the lungs.
  • Call 999: chest pain that started suddenly, or spreads to your arm, neck or jaw, or your chest feels tight. This could be a heart attack. Do not drive yourself to A&E.
  • Someone who faints while exercising, or who has fainted and can't be woken within a minute, has chest pain or a pounding, fluttering or irregular heartbeat, or hasn't fully recovered.
  • Get help from NHS 111: pain or tightness in your chest, neck, shoulders, jaw or arms that comes and goes, often brought on by exercise, stress, emotion or cold and easing after a few minutes' rest. It can be angina, a sign of a heart problem. If you've been diagnosed with angina, get help from NHS 111 too if it feels worse than before, is happening more often, lasts longer or happens when you're resting.
  • Call 999 or go to A&E: back or leg symptoms with numbness around the genitals or bottom, new trouble controlling your bladder or bowels, or severe or worsening weakness or numbness in both legs.

See a doctor or physiotherapist if

  • Knee pain that has not improved within a few weeks of looking after it at home. Many areas offer NHS physiotherapy without a GP referral.
  • Kneecap pain that hasn't improved within 6 weeks of changing your activities and doing the exercises, or that gets worse: talk to a GP or physiotherapist.
  • Pain building just below the kneecap with jumping or running: tendon pain weakens the tendon, so start our jumper's knee guide's plan early. Pain building just above it, worse with deep squats, jumping or kneeling, is quadriceps tendinopathy: start that guide's plan early.
  • The knee gives way, the whole knee swells, or it catches or locks: that isn't typical of kneecap or tendon pain. Get it checked for a ligament or meniscus injury (our suggestion).
  • Catching, locking or swelling at the joint line that hasn't settled after about 3 months of exercise and other non-surgical care: ask your GP or physiotherapist about a specialist review. A magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan may be considered then.
  • Tendon pain above or below the kneecap and you take steroid tablets or have steroid injections, use anabolic steroids, have kidney disease, gout, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus or diabetes, or have recently taken a fluoroquinolone antibiotic: tell your GP or physiotherapist and build up more gradually. These can weaken the tendon. If you're taking a fluoroquinolone now, stop taking it and contact your doctor straight away, as the UK medicines regulator advises.
  • Your knee gives way on the stairs, or you've had a fall on the stairs: use the handrail, take one step at a time, and get it checked by a GP or physiotherapist. Asking about a walking aid and a falls check is our suggestion.
  • Sudden, severe and persistent knee pain, often on the inner side, that came on with little or no injury, especially if you're over 60: see a GP rather than assuming it's arthritis. Early X-rays are usually normal, and a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan may be needed.
  • Pain in one spot on the top of the shin bone, just below the knee, that you can point to with a fingertip, worse with impact and later present at rest or at night: a possible stress fracture. Stop running and jumping until it has been checked.
  • Leg ache when you walk that goes after a few minutes' rest: possible peripheral arterial disease (narrowed leg arteries), especially if you smoke or have diabetes.
  • Swelling in several joints, or morning stiffness that lasts more than 30 minutes: see a GP. It can be an inflammatory arthritis such as rheumatoid arthritis rather than osteoarthritis.
  • Bone pain that is constant or worse at night, especially with a lump, unexplained weight loss, fever or tiredness, or a past history of cancer.
  • A child or teenager with pain at a bump just below the kneecap or at its lower tip, worse with squats, jumps and kneeling: see our Osgood-Schlatter and Sinding-Larsen-Johansson guides, and get it checked if it is getting worse.
  • Contact your GP practice if your child's knee locks or gives way regularly; is hot, swollen or tender, especially if they can't recall an injury; they often limp after activities; they have knee pain that wakes them at night; they avoid activities because of increasing symptoms; or they have a lump in or around the knee that doesn't go away.
  • A child or teenager whose knee pain is there at rest or worse at night, or comes with a limp, swelling, a high temperature, unusual tiredness or weight loss: see a GP.
  • A child or young person with knee or leg pain in only 1 leg or 1 joint, pain in the morning or when walking, a limp, swelling, a rash or unusual bruising, a high temperature, unusual tiredness, or not eating or losing weight: see a GP. These aren't the pattern of growing pains, and unexplained bone pain in a child or young person may need a very urgent X-ray.
  • Numbness, tingling or weakness that travels down the leg from the back. That points to a nerve (sciatica) rather than the knee.

Where does it hurt?

Location narrows the likely causes; it does not diagnose.

Around or behind the kneecap, hard to point to, building through a session, worse at a higher level or speed, and off the machine on stairs, squats and after long sits

Usually kneecap pain (patellofemoral pain), often called runner's knee: by far the commonest pattern. Painless clicking is normal.

Read: Runner's knee →
One point at the lower tip of the kneecap, worse with a fast step rate and with jumps off the machine

Patellar tendon pain (jumper's knee).

Read: Jumper's knee →
One point at the top edge of the kneecap, built up over weeks

Quadriceps tendon pain. A pop with a dent and a knee you can't straighten is a tear: see the warning signs.

Read: Quadriceps tendinopathy →
The inside of the knee: a stiff ache from mid-life, or a tender spot a few centimetres below the joint

Arthritis on the inner side, which often shows up on stairs first, or pes anserine pain. Our inner knee guide maps the exact spot.

Read: Inner knee pain →
The joint line, with catching, locking or swelling later that day

Often a meniscus tear.

Read: Meniscus tear →
Both knees, a stiff ache from your mid-40s, with morning stiffness of 30 minutes or less

Often knee arthritis, which is diagnosed without an X-ray. Exercise helps it; a bike may suit you better than the stair climber for now.

Read: Knee arthritis →
The outside of the knee, at about the same point in each session

Often the iliotibial (IT) band, though it's less typical on a stair machine than when running downhill.

Read: IT band syndrome →
Behind the knee, tightness or a soft lump

Often a Baker's cyst or a tendon. A throbbing, swollen calf in one leg needs a same-day check for a clot: see the warning signs.

Read: Pain behind the knee →
Achy thighs or the area just above the kneecap a day or two after a hard or long session, easing day by day

Usually muscle soreness.

Read: Knee pain after a workout →
The knee hurts on the stairs at home too

Our knee pain on stairs guide covers going up and down, one step at a time, and a plan back to step over step.

Read: Knee pain on stairs →
The knee hurts on step-ups, box work or in a step class

Our step-up guide covers box height and how to step down.

Read: Knee pain in step-ups →
The knee hurts on the treadmill or the elliptical as well

Our treadmill and elliptical knee guides cover those machines.

Read: Knee pain on the treadmill →
A teenager with a tender bump just below the kneecap

Worse with running, jumping, kneeling and stairs in a growing child: Osgood-Schlatter disease.

Read: Osgood-Schlatter →
Pins and needles or numbness down the leg

Points to a nerve in the lower back rather than the knee: sciatica.

Read: Sciatica →

Understand it

Two machines, one climb, and what no study has countedEmerging evidence

The step mill (a revolving staircase) is a short flight of real steps on a loop: in one validation study the steps were about 20 cm high, and one maker's machine runs from 24 steps a minute ("very easy") to 162. The stepper has two pedals you push down in turn, so the depth of each step is partly up to you. Both make you climb without the walk down.

No study or survey counts knee pain caused by stair machines. US emergency data on home exercise machines grouped the stair climber under "other" because it came up so rarely, and an Australian emergency department series lumped steppers in with other gym equipment. So the map on this page is built from lab studies of stairs, steps and stair machines and from what each condition is known to do; that a jump in level, speed or time is the usual story is our reading.

Sources 1, 2, 3, 4

How hard the climb is on the kneeEmerging evidence

Going up stairs put about 3.2 times body weight behind the kneecap in healthy people, against 0.9 for walking, across many studies; in a model of 35 young adults, the peak force behind the kneecap was 8 times higher going up stairs than walking. Through the whole knee joint, people with sensor knee replacements took about 316% of body weight going up stairs and 261% walking.

Only one study has measured a stair machine inside the knee, in 3 people aged 67 to 83 with sensor knee replacements: knee force was about the same as on the cross-trainer at low levels and rose to over 3 times body weight at higher levels, while the cross-trainer stayed at about 2.2 times body weight whatever the level and a stationary bike was lowest. Three people with knee replacements are a thin base, but the pattern matches the stair studies: the level matters. The stepper is low impact but not easy on the front of the thigh: in 17 trained runners, every leg muscle measured worked less on a stepper than in treadmill running except the quadriceps.

Sources 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

Step depth, speed, posture and the railsEmerging evidence

Depth: knee bend rises with step height. On a 20 cm step, about the height of a step mill's, the leading knee bent about 90 degrees in 14 healthy adults, and a 10 cm step-up loaded the kneecap about half as much as a 20 cm one (1.7 against 3.6 times body weight in 20 healthy adults). On a stepper, a shorter push is a fair dial for a sore kneecap; on a step mill the step is fixed, so the dials are speed, time and swapping machines (our reading).

Speed: on a step machine in 33 adults, a faster cadence gave sharper bursts of thigh and buttock muscle work, and people with kneecap pain climbed stairs more slowly on their own, keeping the stress behind the kneecap at normal levels. But in 30 healthy adults on real stairs, speed didn't change the peak knee load per step. So slowing down helps by cutting the loaded steps a minute, not the load per step (our reading).

Posture and the rails: in 20 pain-free women climbing real stairs, leaning the trunk forward lowered the stress behind the kneecap and an upright, leaning-back trunk raised it, and on a pedal climber letting the trunk sway raised the knee's load in 12 people. Holding the rails makes the workout easier: on a stepper and a step mill, even light, steady support lowered oxygen use and heart rate. Whether it protects the knee is untested; on real stairs, light handrail use in 13 older adults raised the leading knee's load. Hence our suggestion: stand tall with a slight forward lean from the hips, hands light for balance, and slow down rather than hang on. Those posture studies were in healthy people on real stairs, not on machines.

Sources 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20

Who gets it, and how the causes are told apartStrong evidence

Kneecap pain is common: about 23% of adults and 29% of adolescents had it in a year, pooled across studies. It is defined by pain around or behind the kneecap brought on by loading a bent knee, with stairs named in the definition, and weak thigh muscles predicted it in military recruits. A tendon is one point you can press, at the lower tip of the kneecap or its top edge, and patellar tendon pain builds with how hard the thigh muscles work.

From mid-life, a stiff ache is often arthritis, and in 4,673 people with or at risk of it, knee pain was most likely to appear first on stairs. The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) diagnoses it without imaging in people 45 or over with activity-related joint pain and morning stiffness of 30 minutes or less. Catching, locking or swelling at the joint line points to the meniscus, though 61% of people aged 50 to 90 with a meniscus tear on a scan had no knee pain in the month before. So knee pain on the stair climber is most likely after a jump in level, speed or time, in a new routine or challenge, in people new to the machine, and from mid-life with arthritis (our reading).

Sources 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27

When a scan or test helpsStrong evidence

Not usually: kneecap, tendon and IT band pain are diagnosed from the story and an examination, and scans of knees that don't hurt often show changes, with signs of arthritis on magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) in 4% to 14% of adults under 40 and 19% to 43% from 40. A report has to match your symptoms before it explains them.

After a fall from the machine, the Ottawa knee rule decides who needs an X-ray: it picked up all 63 fractures in 1,096 adults with knee injuries, and 98.5% across 6 studies of 4,249 adults. A knee that locks or won't straighten, or catching at the joint line that hasn't settled after about 3 months of non-surgical care, is when a clinician may arrange an MRI scan.

Sources 28, 27, 29, 30

How it usually goesEmerging evidence

No study follows knee pain from stair machines. NHS inform says many new knee problems begin to settle within 6 weeks, and an NHS leaflet says kneecap pain can take 3 to 6 months to improve, though it is hard to predict. In a kneecap pain trial in 40 young women, 85% were doing sport without pain at 12 months. But in a 5 to 8 year follow-up in which only 60 of 310 people replied, 57% reported an unfavourable recovery.

No one can promise a date, which is why the plan keeps strength work going after your sessions come back.

Sources 31, 32, 33, 34

What helps, and how strong the evidence is

Changing the machine: lab readings, never tested against painEmerging evidence

No trial has tested a change to stair machine settings for knee pain. The settings on this page are our reading of lab studies, mostly in healthy people: a lower level (knee force rose with level on a pedal stair machine, in 3 people with knee replacements), shorter steps on a stepper (a 10 cm step-up loaded the kneecap about half as much as a 20 cm one), a slower step rate (faster stepping sharpened thigh muscle peaks, and people with sore kneecaps slow down on stairs), a slight forward lean (lower kneecap stress on real stairs in healthy women) and a steady trunk. Leaning on the rails lowers the workout, but no study shows it protects the knee.

Sources 8, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 20

Strength work is the treatment for kneecap painStrong evidence

In a Cochrane review of 31 trials (1,690 people), exercise reduced kneecap pain during activity by about 1.5 points out of 10 against no exercise in the short term (5 trials, 375 people), on very low quality evidence. Two international consensus statements recommend exercise, with hip and knee exercises together in preference to knee exercises alone; one adds that knee programmes with stair climbing also work the hip.

An NHS leaflet for kneecap pain gives 3 sets of 8 to 12 of exercises including bridging, clams and mini squats to less than 30 degrees, and names swimming, the cross trainer and the stationary bike as gentler options than high-impact exercise. NHS inform's kneecap exercises include a step-up on the bottom stair, leading with the sore leg. None of these trials was on a stair machine: the evidence is borrowed from kneecap pain in general.

Sources 35, 36, 37, 38, 39

Knee arthritis: exercise helps, but no trial has tested stair machinesEmerging evidence

Across 139 trials (12,468 people), exercise improved knee arthritis pain by about 9 points out of 100 against placebo or attention (low certainty) and function by about 11 (moderate certainty). NICE recommends exercise, including local muscle strengthening and general aerobic fitness, for everyone with osteoarthritis, and says joint pain may rise when you start. Walking for exercise went with less new frequent knee pain in 1,212 people with knee arthritis, an association that can't show cause.

No trial has tested stair machine training in knee arthritis. The nearest is a study without randomisation of real-stair training in 40 people with mild arthritis in one knee: pain fell from 5.0 to 3.5 out of 10, but there was no comparison group that skipped the stairs, and people with arthritis in both knees were left out because of the fall risk.

Sources 40, 26, 41, 42

Which machine is gentlest inside the kneeEmerging evidence

In 9 people with sensor knees, cycling at a moderate 60 watts put about 119% of body weight through the knee, against 316% going up stairs, and the lowest forces came with a low power, a quick cadence and a high seat. The cross-trainer held at about 2.2 times body weight whatever the level, while the stair machine rose with level. In a survey of 349 people with knee arthritis, 82% voted indoor biking knee friendly; the step machine came 21st of 30 activities (about 29%, a figure read from the paper's chart, as the text gives no number).

Kneecap pain can flare with cycling too, so set the seat high and the resistance light. Swapping keeps your fitness: in 22 women, the stair climber, cross-trainer and treadmill gave similar fitness gains over 12 weeks, and a bike burns a little less per minute than the stair climber at the same effort, so ride a little longer (our reading).

Sources 43, 7, 8, 44, 35, 45, 46

Stair machines in rehabilitation: no harm found, in other groupsEmerging evidence

After knee ligament (ACL) reconstruction in 46 athletes, a stair climber programme matched cycling, with no harm to thigh strength, and a small study after the same surgery found no harm to the ligament. In 24 inactive women aged 50 to 65, 12 weeks on a stair climber raised fitness by about 11% and thigh strength, and real-stair training built leg power in older adults. These are other groups, but they show a stair machine can come back once the knee settles.

Sources 47, 48, 49, 50

Braces, medicines and surgeryMixed evidence

The international consensus is uncertain about taping and bracing for kneecap pain, so treat a sleeve or tape as comfort, not treatment, and NICE doesn't routinely offer braces, tape or insoles for arthritis unless the joint is unstable or exercise isn't enough. For a worn meniscus tear in mid-life, 12 weeks of supervised exercise did as well as keyhole surgery at 2 years in 140 adults. Our running knee guide covers painkillers.

Sources 36, 26, 51

How much pain is OK while you exercise?

0 to 2 is safe, up to 5 is acceptable, back to usual by the next morningEmerging evidence

This guide uses the knee hub's pain rule, for the exercises and for the stair climber. Rate your knee pain from 0 to 10 during and after exercise. In the pain-monitoring model used in knee trials, 0 to 2 counts as safe, up to 5 as acceptable and above 5 as too much. Aim for 0 to 3 most of the time.

By the next morning your knee should be back to its usual level. If it is not, drop back one step next time (fewer sets, a shallower range, a lower step), not to nothing. Over the weeks pain should hold steady or ease; that last check is our suggestion rather than a tested rule.

Some knee programmes say you should feel no pain at all. The trials allowed some, and a meta-analysis found exercising into some pain did no worse than pain-free exercise. NICE says joint pain may rise when you start exercising with arthritis, and that regular exercise still helps in the long run.

Sharp, catching or giving-way pain, or new swelling, is a reason to stop and get it checked.

The model comes from a kneecap pain trial in 40 young women, and NHS inform's kneecap exercises use the same limit of 0 to 5 out of 10, with pain no worse overall afterwards; an NHS leaflet adds that if pain is up for more than 24 hours after exercising, do fewer exercises next time. In 7 trials of long-lasting muscle and joint pain, exercise that allowed some pain did no worse than pain-free exercise. With pain at one point just below or above the kneecap, our knee tendon guides keep it to 3 out of 10 or less.

On the stair climber (our suggestion, built on the same rule): judge each session by its last 5 minutes and by the next morning. Use the speed, level, step depth and time at which your knee stays at 5 out of 10 or less, aiming for 0 to 3, and is back to its usual level the next morning. Pain that builds steadily through a session rather than holding steady is a sign to end it there and go slower, shallower or shorter next time, not to stop altogether. Change one thing at a time. A knee that locks, gives way or swells, a swollen calf, and chest pain or breathlessness on the machine aren't pain-rule questions: see the warning signs.

Sources 33, 39, 32, 52

The exercise plan: 3 stages

Start at the first stage. Each move opens a full guide with a 3D demo.

Stage 1

Settle: slow the machine or swap it, and start loading

About weeks 0 to 2, strength work 2 or 3 days a week: keep your fitness on a bike, or on a stepper turned right down if it passes the pain rule, and start the hip and knee strength work recommended for kneecap pain. With a diagnosed condition (a tendon problem, a meniscus or ligament tear, knee arthritis, Osgood-Schlatter disease, a knee replacement), that guide's plan, or your team's, comes first.

Recumbent exercise bike demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoRecumbent exercise bikeBeginner · Cardio machine

10 to 20 minutes at a moderate effort to start, building towards 30 (our editorial starting point). Moderate means you can talk but not sing, and those minutes count towards the 150 a week the NHS recommends. The resistance sets the effort: the Compendium rates stationary cycling from very light to very vigorous. · The move page's dose. The swap: cycling loaded sensor knees at about 119% of body weight at 60 watts, against 316% going up stairs; keep the seat high and the resistance light

Harder: Stationary cycling

Stair-stepper machine demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoStair-stepper machineIntermediate · Cardio machine

Only if it passes the pain rule: 5 to 10 minutes at the slowest setting, short steps, a slight forward lean from the hips, hands light on the rails · Adapted from the move page's dose (editorial). Short steps and a slow rate are our reading of the step-up and cadence studies

Easier: Elliptical trainer · Harder: Hill sprints

Glute bridge demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoGlute bridgeBeginner · No equipment

3 sets of 8 to 12 · An NHS leaflet's dose for kneecap pain

Easier: Pelvic tilt into bridge · Harder: Single-leg glute bridge

Clamshell demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoClamshellBeginner · No equipment

3 sets of 8 to 12 each side · An NHS leaflet's dose for kneecap pain

Easier: Supine isometric hip abduction (belt press) · Harder: Lateral band walk

Sit squat (partial squat) demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoSit squat (partial squat)Beginner · No equipment

3 sets of 8 to 12, to less than 30 degrees of knee bend at first · An NHS leaflet's dose and depth for mini squats

Harder: Bodyweight squat

Seated knee extension (chair) demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoSeated knee extension (chair)Beginner · A bench or box + Something with weight

3 sets of 10 to 15 each leg, 2 to 3 days a week. An editorial starting point: this exact move has not been tested on its own, though quadriceps-focused programmes showed larger effects in knee arthritis trials. · The move page's dose. If the full range hurts the kneecap, work from 90 to about 45 degrees of bend, as the move page says

Easier: Quad set (static quads) · Harder: Leg extension

Move on when: Daily life and these moves stay within the pain rule, and 20 minutes on the bike at a moderate effort leaves the knee no worse the next morning, for about a week (editorial, as in our treadmill and elliptical knee guides).

Follow along: a timer, a cue and the next move, one step at a time.
Stage 2

Build: hip and knee strength, the step itself, then time on the stepper

About weeks 2 to 6, strength work 2 or 3 days a week: the combined hip and knee work the consensus statements recommend for kneecap pain, the stepping movement on solid ground from a low step to a normal stair, and stepper sessions built up by time first, then step depth, then pace. With pain at one point just below or above the kneecap, add the holds.

Step-up demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoStep-upBeginner · A step

Lead with the sore leg onto a low step (about 10 cm), then the bottom stair, building to 3 sets of 10 each leg · NHS inform's step-up leads with the affected leg; the 3 sets of 10 is our treadmill knee guide's (editorial); a 10 cm step-up loaded the kneecap about half as much as a 20 cm one

Easier: Low step-up · Harder: Dumbbell step-up

Patrick step-down demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoPatrick step-downIntermediate · A step

3 sets of 8 to 10 each leg, low step first · As in our treadmill knee guide (editorial)

Easier: Bodyweight squat · Harder: Skater squat

Lateral band walk demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoLateral band walkBeginner · A band

3 sets of 12 steps each way · As in our treadmill knee guide (editorial): hip strength for kneecap pain

Easier: Hip abduction machine · Harder: Lateral band walk, band at the feet

Split squat demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoSplit squatIntermediate · No equipment

3 sets of 8 to 10 each leg, to a depth within the pain rule · As in our treadmill knee guide (editorial)

Easier: Bodyweight squat · Harder: Reverse lunge

Spanish squat (band squat hold) demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoSpanish squat (band squat hold)Intermediate · A band + An anchor point

Only for one point just below or above the kneecap: 4 to 5 holds of 30 to 45 s with 1 to 2 min rest, once a day, at 3 out of 10 or less · Adapted from the move page's dose, as in our elliptical and treadmill knee guides

Easier: Straight-leg raise · Harder: Pistol squat

Stair-stepper machine demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoStair-stepper machineIntermediate · Cardio machine

Build from 10 to 20 minutes at a slow, steady rate, adding about 5 minutes every session or two; then a deeper step; then a little more pace, one change at a time · Adapted from the move page's dose (editorial), using the change-one-thing-at-a-time order of our treadmill knee guide

Easier: Elliptical trainer · Harder: Hill sprints

Move on when: 3 sets of 10 slow step-ups onto a normal stair on the sore leg stay within the pain rule, and 20 minutes on the stepper at a moderate effort with full steps passes it and leaves the knee no worse the next morning (editorial).

Follow along: a timer, a cue and the next move, one step at a time.
Stage 3

Back to the step mill and your usual sessions, and keep strong

From about week 6, then ongoing: the step mill comes back at its slowest speed, then time, then speed, then intervals, one at a time by the written steps below, with strength work kept twice a week because kneecap pain often comes back. No study has tested a return to stair machine sessions after knee pain, so the order is editorial.

Step mill (revolving stair machine) demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoStep mill (revolving stair machine)Intermediate · Cardio machine

10 to 20 minutes to start, building towards 30 (our editorial starting point). For most people this is vigorous: you can say only a few words without pausing for breath, and 75 vigorous minutes a week give similar benefits to 150 moderate ones (NHS). · The move page's dose. Start at the slowest speed; one maker suggests about 24 steps a minute for a first session

Easier: Elliptical trainer · Harder: Hill sprints

Leg press demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoLeg pressBeginner · Strength machine

3 sets of 6 to 10 each leg, one leg at a time, in a range that passes the pain rule · As in our elliptical and treadmill knee guides (editorial)

Harder: Bodyweight squat

Single-leg Romanian deadlift demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoSingle-leg Romanian deadliftAdvanced · A dumbbell

3 sets of 8 each leg, fingertips on a wall at first · As in our treadmill knee guide (editorial)

Easier: Dumbbell Romanian deadlift

Single-leg calf raise from a step demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoSingle-leg calf raise from a stepIntermediate · A step + A wall

3 sets of 15 each leg · As in our treadmill knee guide (editorial)

Easier: Slow calf raise · Harder: Single-leg pogo hops

Stair climbing demonstrated on the 3D figure3D demoStair climbingIntermediate · A step

1 to 3 flights at your own pace, step over step going up, the rail within reach, 2 to 3 days a week, building up · As in our knee pain on stairs guide (editorial; the move page gives no dose)

Easier: Treadmill walking · Harder: Sprint intervals

Move on when: Your usual sessions pass the pain rule for 2 weeks. If a session flares it, go back to the last setting that was fine, not to nothing; if it keeps coming back, see a physiotherapist (editorial, as in our treadmill knee guide).

Follow along: a timer, a cue and the next move, one step at a time.

What to change for now

What to change on the stair climber today (written steps)

Our 3D figure can't show the speed, the level, step depth, the rails or your posture. These steps come from lab studies, mostly in healthy people, one maker's manual, our stair climber and knee guides, and NHS pages; none has been tested against knee pain. Keep what passes the pain rule.

  • 1. Slow down and turn the level down: one maker's step mill runs from 24 steps a minute ("very easy") to 162, and on a pedal stair machine knee force rose to over 3 times body weight at higher levels in 3 people with knee replacements. Slower stepping means fewer loaded steps a minute (our reading).
  • 2. Shorter steps on a pedal stepper, for now: push each pedal through part of its range rather than all the way down (our suggestion). Knee bend rises with step height, and a 10 cm step-up loaded the kneecap about half as much as a 20 cm one. A step mill's steps are fixed, so use speed and time there. Shorter steps without leaning still give a hard workout: they felt harder than full steps with arm support in one small study.
  • 3. Stand tall with a slight forward lean from your hips, eyes ahead (our suggestion, from studies of healthy women on real stairs, where a forward lean lowered the stress behind the kneecap and an upright, leaning-back trunk raised it). Don't slump over the console or sway over each leg, and keep your knees in line with your toes.
  • 4. Hands light on the rails, for balance, as the maker's manual says. Leaning makes the workout easier than the display says, and no study shows it spares the knee: on real stairs, light rail use raised the leading knee's load in older adults. If you need to hang on, slow down; your hands tend to drift lower as you tire, so check halfway.
  • 5. Whole foot on each step, pushing up through the middle of the foot and heel, as our stair climber guide says.
  • 6. Shorter sessions or rounds: 3 rounds of 3 to 5 minutes with 1 slow minute between, as level 1 of our stair climber workout does (editorial), and build time before speed.
  • 7. One change at a time: time, then step depth or speed, then intervals (editorial, as in our treadmill knee guide). A viral routine such as 25-7-2 (25 minutes at level 7, twice a week) is a big jump for a sore knee.
  • 8. A different machine for now: a bike, seat high and resistance light, gave the lowest knee forces, and the cross-trainer didn't rise with level; an NHS leaflet names swimming, the cross trainer and the stationary bike. The NHS counts walking up stairs as vigorous, so ride a little longer at a moderate effort to keep your weekly total (our reading).
  • 9. Keep moving: an NHS leaflet says keep moving within your pain limits.
  • 10. Safety: hold the rails to get on and off, start at the slowest speed, and let the stairs stop before you step off one foot at a time, as the maker's manual says.
  • 11. A mini stepper at home has no rails: stand near a wall or a sturdy chair, keep the steps short and slow, and stop if the knee hurts more than the pain rule allows (our suggestion; no study has tested mini steppers).

Sources 2, 8, 15, 13, 10, 12, 53, 16, 17, 18, 20, 54, 43, 38, 55

Real stairs, step classes and sitting

On the stairs at home, NHS inform says lead with your good leg going up, because the leading leg does most of the bending work; a stair machine makes you climb step over step, which is one reason a sore knee may manage the stairs at home but not the machine (our reading). Our knee pain on stairs guide covers stairs at home, and our step-up guide covers box work and step classes. On long sits, stretch the leg out or get up every half hour while the kneecap is sore (editorial).

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Positions to swap, and why

Habit or positionWhy it mattersInstead
A high level or fast step rate while the knee is soreKnee force rose to over 3 times body weight at higher levels on a pedal stair machine, and thigh muscle peaks sharpen at speed.The slowest speed, building time first; the recumbent bike if it keeps hurting.Try: Recumbent exercise bike
Full-depth pumps on the stepper with a sore kneecapDeeper steps bend the knee more; a 20 cm step-up loaded the kneecap about twice as much as a 10 cm one.Shorter steps for now, then full steps once they pass the pain rule.
Hanging on the rails or the consoleIt lowers the workout, and no study shows it protects the knee.Hands light, a slight forward lean from the hips, and a slower speed.
Leaning back, bolt uprightAn upright, leaning-back trunk raised kneecap stress on stairs in a lab study.A slight forward lean from the hips.
Swaying over each legTrunk sway raised the knee's load and knee-in angle on a pedal climber.A steady trunk, knees in line with toes.
Two steps at a time, a weighted vest or 25-7-2 while it settlesMore knee bend, load or time at once.Last, in stage 3, one at a time.
Stepping off a moving step millThe maker says let the stairs stop fully first.Slow down, wait, then step off one foot at a time holding the rails.
Resting the knee completelyExercise is the treatment for kneecap pain, and an NHS leaflet says keep moving within your pain limits.The stage 1 moves.Try: Glute bridge
A knee sleeve or tape as the planThe consensus is uncertain about taping and bracing, and NICE doesn't routinely offer them for arthritis.The strength plan.
Climbing on through locking, giving way, new swelling or a swollen calfThese need checking: see the warning signs.Stop and get it checked.

Routines to follow

Stair machine workout: steady climbing and intervals on the step mill or stepper

A 30-minute stair machine session in three levels: short climbs with easy breaks, a steady climb, then optional 1-minute brisk intervals.

30 minBeginner4 movesCardio machine, A wall

Knee strengthening workout: from first steps to full range

A 25-minute session for knees that don't currently hurt: thigh and hamstring strength, single-leg control, then an optional full-range block with knees over toes.

25 minBeginner14 movesA bench or box, A wall

Knee control warm-up

A 20-minute warm-up that trains your knees to track over your toes: side-hip strength, squats and lunges with alignment practice, balance and quiet landings.

20 minBeginner10 movesA wall, A band

Low-impact leg workout (no jumping)

A gentle leg strength routine with no jumping: sit-to-stands, step-ups, wall sits, bridges and calf raises.

20 minBeginner7 movesA bench or box, A step

Cardio machines for beginners: treadmill, cross-trainer, rower and bike

A first tour of the gym's cardio machines: a few minutes each on the bike, treadmill, cross-trainer and rower, set up safely, at a talk-but-not-sing pace.

40 minBeginner7 movesCardio machine, A wall

Easy cardio workout

A steady 30 to 45 minute cardio session at talk-but-not-sing pace: walk, cycle, row or cross-train, counting toward weekly activity guidelines.

40 minBeginner3 movesCardio machine, A wall

Hill and stair conditioning

Stair or hill climbs with the walk down as recovery, then a loaded walk with your rucksack, building towards the hills, pack and days of your trip.

40 minBeginner5 movesA step, Something with weight

More moves for this area

Questions people ask

Why does my knee hurt on the stair climber?

Usually kneecap pain: climbing puts about three times your body weight behind the kneecap, and a higher level, faster steps or a longer session than your knee is used to adds up. Where it hurts points to the cause: around the kneecap, one point below it, the inside, the outside or behind the knee. Slow down, turn the level down, and see the warning signs if the knee locks, gives way or swells.

Is the stair climber (StairMaster) bad for your knees?

Not for most people: no study shows a stair machine harms healthy knees, and after knee ligament surgery a stair climber programme did as well as cycling. But it does load the front of the knee, more so at higher levels, so it shows up a sore kneecap. Use a lower level, a slower pace and shorter sessions while it settles.

Why do my knees hurt on the stair climber but not when I walk?

Climbing loads the kneecap about three and a half times more than walking. That's why stairs are often where knee pain shows up first. It's a sign to adjust the load and build strength, not a sign of damage.

Should I hold the rails on the stair climber if my knees hurt?

Lightly, for balance. Leaning makes the workout easier than the display says, but no study shows it protects your knee, and on real stairs light rail use raised the knee's load in older adults. Stand tall with a slight forward lean from your hips and slow down rather than hang on.

Is the stair climber good or bad for runner's knee?

Runner's knee is pain around the kneecap, and stairs are one of the activities that define it, so a stair machine often aggravates it at first. Swap to a bike, or keep the stepper slow and shallow within the pain rule, while hip and knee strength work does the treating. Our runner's knee guide has the full plan.

Can I use a stair climber with knee arthritis?

Often, at a low level and a slow pace, within the pain rule: NICE recommends exercise for everyone with osteoarthritis and says pain may rise at first. No trial has tested stair machines in knee arthritis, and in a survey people with knee arthritis rated indoor biking far more knee friendly than the step machine, so a bike or the cross-trainer may suit you better.

Is the stair climber or the bike better for bad knees?

The bike: cycling at a moderate effort put about 119% of body weight through sensor knees, against 316% going up stairs. The cross-trainer sat in between and didn't rise with the level. Set the bike seat high and the resistance light if the kneecap is sore.

Does the stair climber strengthen your knees?

It works the thigh muscles, and 12 weeks on a stair climber raised thigh strength in inactive women aged 50 to 65. But it is mainly cardio. For knee pain, the treatment is targeted hip and knee strength work, with the stair climber added back once the knee settles.

Why does the inside of my knee hurt after the stair climber?

From mid-life, an achy inner knee is often arthritis, which commonly shows up on stairs first. Catching, locking or swelling at the joint line points to the meniscus, and a tender spot a few centimetres below the joint to the pes anserine tendons. Our inner knee guide maps the exact spot.

Why does the back of my knee hurt after the stair climber?

Tightness or a soft lump behind the knee is often a Baker's cyst, or the hamstring or calf tendons. A throbbing, swollen calf in one leg needs a same-day check for a clot: see the warning signs.

Are mini steppers bad for your knees?

We found no study of mini steppers. They work like a pedal stepper without rails, so keep the steps short and slow at first, stay near a wall or chair for balance, and use the same pain rule.

When should I see a doctor?

Go to A&E after a fall if your knee has changed shape or swelled fast, get advice from NHS 111 now if you can't put weight on it, it locks or gives way, or it's hot and swollen with a high temperature, and call 999 for chest pain on the machine. See a GP or physiotherapist if it hasn't improved within a few weeks. In the US, call 911 where this page says 999.

Related exercise guides

Other pain guides

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Exercise education, not a diagnosis or treatment plan. It is written from the guidelines and studies listed above; review by a clinician is pending. If your pain follows an injury, is severe, is getting worse, or comes with any warning sign listed on this page, get it assessed. Health disclaimer.